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It is to my great dismay to announce that I have been “banned” from 30 Bananas A Day.

What have I done, you ask? What was so unbelievably horrid that required this action?

I responded to other, curious, individuals questions regarding a paleolithic and warrior diet lifestyle.

*I’ll let that percolate for a moment*

Yep, that’s all.

Oh, but wait!! THERE’S MORE!!

Due to my mere existence while consuming meat… the two owners of the site, Freelea and Durianrider (Harley),  as well as other numerous cultists, found it necessary to bash and insult me and my chosen experimental path. Without any regard to my feelings, whatsoever.

In my defense, I posted a response asking for them to please respect my decision and refrain from the juvenile behavior. As well, I posted a blog stating I would abstain from further participation in hopes to keep the peace on the forum, for everyone. See Below:

“As most of you have noticed.. I’ve been receiving a lot of unnecessary and quite childish flak from some individuals on this site. Which is, quite honestly, very disappointing.

In my first blog post explaining my diet experimentation, I stated that I would refrain from speaking too much on the forums, for this very reason.

It is truly unfortunate that so many feel the need to treat others this way. And why? Who knows? Perhaps due to feeling panicked by the fact that I may be onto something, which threatens their very belief system? Or – perhaps just a simple case of the failure to comprehend and fully appreciate my reasoning… a general lack of understanding.

Either way, no matter how you toss the dice… what is so, is so.

So to forgo anymore juvenile responses, I am going to continue on in my quest for health without the participation on the forums. I simply haven’t the tolerance for such closed-mindedness… it leads to my frustration and I’m sure, causes those on the other side of the spectrum frustration, as well.

I may return once I receive my test results. So I hope to speak to all of you, then!

I miss you, all!

Feel free to stop in my blog every now and then to say “Boo”

http://sassifer.wordpress.com/

Peace, love, and good health to all!!!!!
~ Casandra“

And the posts that took place, you ask? Well, here they are…

Quote from Paleo and Crossfit Thread on 30BAD:

(The original poster was asking about a paleo diet and how it compares to 80/10/10)

Jeff : “Contact Cassandra who is currently doing a paleo experiment. Check out her blog at…
http://sassifer.wordpress.com/who-is-sassifer/ “

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Me: “hehe thanks Jeff

Yes i’m doing a paleo-experiment. One that looks like it’s going to take me into the winter months.. if I’m to prove/disprove my theory on eating seasonally.

So far I’ve had a very mixed response from the experiment. Mostly due to consuming foods in a more processed and unnatural state. But when I stick to whole fruits, veggies and simply-cooked meats.. all’s well.

By the way… the whole “a vegan who eats meat will die” or.. “a vegan who eats meat will have serious stomach problems” is a crock of you know what

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Freeleas Response:

Responses in bold are quotes of my post.

Responses unbolded are her.

“Undereating on carbs from sweet fruit Cassandra is the exact reason why u are eating meat.
“a vegan who eats meat will have serious stomach problems”

- Give it time Cassandra.
-How long were u vegan before eating animals again?”

*this is where I responded to her and asked that she cease harping on me about not eating enough carbs and insinuating that I’m eating meat/cooked food because of this. I also told her that I was vegan for 10 years before eating meat – somehow I lost this post in my frenzy to copy and paste!!*

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Her Second Post:

Responses in bold are quotes of my post.

Responses unbolded are her.

“Hey Cass, Thanks for getting back to me

The reason I’m ‘harping’ on about it is simple…because its a recipe that actually works but many don’t give it a proper chance or do it correctly (although there are many peeps here thriving on this lifestyle prescription)

“Hun, I was consuming 2000+ calories in fresh fruit every single day. I was eating so much… that I threw up from eating TOO MUCH.“

- This is very unusual, how long were u attempting to do this before u threw up?- Feel free to email me so we don’t take up this thread

“I’ve been on 80/10/10 for 3 months and the results already, are astounding! I am in such awe at the improvements in my physical appearance, digestion, skin texture, mental clarity, and especially energy levels! WOW!! I am in love with this lifestyle and I have absolutely no comprehension how anyone can live their lives consuming anything that isn’t a fresh, whole, food
….I’ve always had a deep passion for nature, animals” (this is from my profile page which hasn’t been updated in 5 months, on the site)

- This is a great testimonial from your profile page Cassandra Thanks

If we learn about human physiology we will see that every cell in the human body runs on glucose ( & the brain exclusively glucose) fruit is the preferred fuel, if we are not getting sufficient amounts of calories from fruit then we will start to look to other sources for our fuel…like cooked carbs & dead animals. Is this healthy? No. Is this sustainable ? No.

“Everyone who goes to “cooked food” or “eats meat”… can not always, indefinitely, be chalked up to “they weren’t eating enough fruit”

- I Disagree & have seen it MANY times before as I have witnessed it in friends, family & clients, they always are undereating on carbs prior to the consumption of non-foods.

Of course what u eat is your choice but to think u would receive any other advice on a low fat raw VEGAN website is a little naive. I must remind you that this is a vegan website & we do not support discussions on the consumption of dead animals.

I only wish to see u succeed Casandra & when I witness any individual partaking in something destructive to their health I care & speak up…its sort of my job too!. Eating meat can have serious health & karmic implications, especially if u have been raw & vegan for a period of time beforehand.

In health & happines
Lovefree

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My Direct Response:

Responses in bold are quotes of her post.

Responses unbolded are me.

Responses in bolded italic grey is her quoting me.

“Hey Cass, Thanks for getting back to me

Anytime…

The reason I’m ‘harping’ on about it is simple…because its a recipe that actually works but many don’t give it a proper chance or do it correctly (although there are many peeps here thriving on this lifestyle prescription)

I realize that the under consumption of fruit calories has caused many to stray from the 811 lifestyle. Yes. I am not, nor have I ever, denied or argued such a fact.

However – What I am trying (and seem to be failing) to express to you is that I was NOT under consuming. I was NOT lacking in fruit sugars. I was consuming more than an adequate amount. But what has instigated my change in diet is purely for the facet of learning. My passion in life is health, nutrition, and the good of all man-kind. The 811 lifestyle was one of my educational tests, on myself. I did this for about 4 months. Now… I’m onto the next thing. I am trying everything possible, leaving NO STONE unturned in my quest for ultimate health and existence. The ascertainment of such knowledge can only be done by means of trial and error, first-hand experience, whatever you may call it.

Who would I be to sing the praises of one concept without testing another? Nothing more than an uneducated, bumbling, hypocrite.

To read a book written by a self proclaimed expert… and believe said literature speaks nothing but the god’s truth is incredibly closed-minded, in my eyes, and should always be avoided. Instead, one should allow themselves to experiment and explore… with no negative apprehensions. To allow oneself to be free in exploration and expression is to embrace all life.

“Hun, I was consuming 2000+ calories in fresh fruit every single day. I was eating so much… that I threw up from eating TOO MUCH.”
- This is very unusual, how long were u attempting to do this before u threw up?- Feel free to email me so we don’t take up this thread

There’s no need to email. If you wish to discuss anything further after this post then yes.. we can do so. But I don’t feel a need as this will be all I have to say regarding this topic.

It happened on only two occasions… but I felt extremely nauseated on several others.

“I’ve been on 80/10/10 for 3 months and the results already, are astounding! I am in such awe at the improvements in my physical appearance, digestion, skin texture, mental clarity, and especially energy levels! WOW!! I am in love with this lifestyle and I have absolutely no comprehension how anyone can live their lives consuming anything that isn’t a fresh, whole, food
….I’ve always had a deep passion for nature, animals”
- This is a great testimonial from your profile page Cassandra Thanks

It is. Your welcome.

If we learn about human physiology we will see that every cell in the human body runs on glucose ( & the brain exclusively glucose) fruit is the preferred fuel, if we are not getting sufficient amounts of calories from fruit then we will start to look to other sources for our fuel…like cooked carbs & dead animals. Is this healthy? No. Is this sustainable ? No.

Oh Free… there are far too many variables and scientific mumble-jumble that go along with such claims… we need to take into account grass-fed, wild-run animals – which YES.. absolutely, are sustainable. As well as how nature designed “seasons” for specific foods, etc… I go into much more detail regarding this on my blog, if you are interested I can link you.

Ofcourse what u eat is your choice but to think u would receive any other advice on a low fat raw VEGAN website is a little naive. I must remind you that this is a vegan website & we do not support discussions on the consumption of dead animals.

Yes, it is my choice.
Yes, this is a vegan website. Might I remind you that I never instigated any conversations regarding the consumption of meat… this, in fact, was started on other thread by yourself.

Quote:
“Cassandra I see on another thread u are eating cooked meat?? Just another reason to get enough fruit calories. We rarely do experiments unless we are hungry.”

As well as the original poster of this thread.

I only wish to see u succeed Casandra & when I witness any individual partaking in something destructive to their health I care & speak up…its sort of my job too!. Eating meat can have serious health & karmic implications, especially if u have been raw & vegan for a period of time beforehand.

Free. I greatly appreciate your concern for my health. You are a wonderful, warm, loving and caring person… of which the world needs more of. However, you need not worry for me. Should my health deteriorate I will not hesitate to return to 811, as has been my plan from day 1.”

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What was the response from this? Well, 45 minutes later… while in the middle of responding to another curious person’s questions regarding my diet (see picture # 2)… I found out.

Answer = Banning

Now this provokes the question, honestly… why would this happen?

For me, the answer can be summed up into one word: Threat.

Yes, those on 30BAD are threatened by my experimentation because I’ve had such success with it so far. Contrary to popular belief, eating meat and eating once a day has caused amazing changes in my health and life.

As well… despite their best efforts to keep their “followers” following, many curious and open-minded individuals have contacted me requesting more information regarding my experiment. Not only that, but a handful have even begun to test some aspects out for themselves. (please refer to pictures #2 and 3)

This, in turn, conveys to them the concept that maybe, just maybe, their way is wrong. Perhaps, by some unforeseen happenstance, their lifestyles could NOT be the only way. Quite possibly, they haven’t got all the answers.

The sheer conceptualization of such blasphemy is far too scary for one to accept, let alone speak of!!

What does a religious leader of a cult do to those which tempt the followers to stray? Get rid of the temptation.

It is extremely deplorable of them to go to such lavish lengths. But, what can you do?

All I can do is express my story in the hopes that others do not fall into the same trap as I.

To be perfectly honest, this isn’t the first subject that has ruffled invisible feathers. Just recently a friend of mine poured his heart and soul into an extremely well-written post (more like article) pertaining to marijuana, it’s use, history and how it effects the human body. Not once did he advocate it’s use, but rather attempted to educate others.

What happened to him? He received a warning from “big brother” and “big sister”, as well, his entire post alongside others’ wonderful responses… were deleted. When confronted, the “moderators” coughed up the excuse of: “we do not support the use of drugs”.

Not only that, but prior to this occurrence… Harley himself was banned from a fellow site “Give It To Me Raw” for his outlandish and disrespectful methods of speaking to others. I stuck up for the guy, giving him the benefit of the doubt… as I know his heart is always in the right place. However, through my own personal experience with such quick-to-dismiss behavior… I now concur with everyone else regarding his poor social skills.

It is truly heartbreaking to see a handful of spoiled blueberries ruin it for the bushel.

Oh well. At least I’m not alone: http://www.giveittomeraw.com/forum/topics/i-just-found-out-i-was-banned

My only advice coming out of this is: Should you be on the lookout for a raw-vegan forum that is comprised of a respectful and open-minded atmosphere, consisting of mature individuals possessing commonsensical mentalities who support freedom of speech… all in the name of health, I strongly suggest you keep searching - 30 Bananas A Day is not the site for you.